Q: Let’s say, I am going to school to get my doctorate. I will use three years of the MGIB, and then the 12 additional months of the Post 9/11. (I do qualify and am at the 100% tier.) I would then want to use the Yellow Ribbon Program benefit since I am not yet done with the MD. Assuming the college participates, and I have exhausted all my GI Bill options, how would that work to complete my existing semesters under VA programs?
A: Your plan wouldn’t work and here is why. The Yellow Ribbon Program is a feature of the Post 9/11 GI Bill and not a program of itself that can be used alone. It has to be used in conjunction with the Post 9/11 GI Bill. Because of that fact, your plan will not work.
The first part of your plan is solid if it will take over four years to get your doctorate – using your MGIB first and then the Post 9/11 GI Bill next. However if you can do it in four years, a better plan would be to switch your MGIB benefits over to the Post 9/11 GI Bill.
Under the MGIB, you’ll get about $1,729 per month. Out of that amount, you would have to pay tuition, buy books and pay for other education-related expenses. But if you use the Post 9/11 GI Bill, your tuition up to the resident level is paid in full if you attend a public school or up to $20,235.02 if attending a private school.
If your tuition exceeds what the VA can pay and your school is a participant in the Yellow Ribbon Program, the unpaid difference could be picked up by your school and the VA.
Once per semester you would also get about $500 per semester for books (up to the $1,000 yearly limit). You would also get a monthly housing allowance that averages $1,300. Because it I based on the zip code of your school and the number of credits you take, your amount could be more or less.
So in the end, your decision as to which GI Bill to use should hinge on how long it will take to get your doctorate degree.
Q: My son was advised to use the Post 9/11 GI Bill and has completed his 36 months. His plan was to then use the Pell grant – but now he is told that all of his units completed using his GI Bill count against the Pell. He will be without funding the end of this semester. All the VA office at his school said all they could do for him is give him a phone number to see if he could switch to Montgomery. He has called repeatedly, but never gets a call back. My questions are:
Can he switch to Montgomery? He is completing undergraduate in Astrophysics. If he can – HOW can he do this if there is no one who appears to be able to help him? Thank you so much!
A: What he was told about his GI Bill units counting against his Pell grant eligibility is true but not in the sense he was told. Pell grants can only be used for undergraduate funding and because he used his GI Bill first and got his degree, he is no longer eligible for the Pell grant. A better plan of attack would have been to use the Pell grant for undergraduate and then his GI Bill for his advanced degree if he insisted on using the Pell. But there are other financial aid options, including the Perkins, Stafford and Direct Plus.
The physical aspect of switching GI Bills is easy – submitting one form electronically. But the bigger issue is his eligibility.
If the Post 9/11 GI Bill is the only one he has, then he could not switch to the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) because he would not have signed up for it when he first enlisted nor would he have paid the $1,200 contribution fee.
If he did have the MGIB and switched to the Post 9/11 GI Bill, then he no longer has the MGIB, as he agreed to “give it up” when he made the switch to the New GI Bill.
Now if he happened to have another GI Bill, other than the MGIB and Post 9/11, and he gave up that GI Bill when he switched to the Post 9/11 GI Bill, then he would have 12 months of eligibility under the MGIB.
If that is the case, then he should go to the eBenefits website and submit VA Form 22-1990 to get his updated Certificate of Eligibility. It would then show he has 12 months of MGIB eligibility that he can use when registering for school and the date when the benefits will expire.
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Q: My husband and I are both active duty in Germany right now. I will be getting out and using my GI Bill to go to school in Germany while my husband finishes out his contract here. Am I still entitled to the monthly housing allowance if we live in government quarters housing? We do not receive OHA? – Rachel
A: In your case Rachel, yes you are. Because you have your own Post 9/11 GI Bill, you are treated as an individual veteran and not as a spouse of a serving military member. Different rules apply to each type of status, so it can get confusing.
As a veteran, you’ll get your tuition paid directly to your school by the VA. Monthly you’ll get a housing allowance in the amount of $1529[check amount] which is the foreign school rate. Where you live is immaterial as it has no impact on what you get from your Post 9/11 GI Bill.
Once per term you’ll also get the book stipend in the amount of $41.67 per credit.
Now if you were using transferred Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits instead of your own, then you would not be authorized the housing allowance. You can’t get more benefits than what your sponsor can get and he would not be authorized the housing allowance either as long as he is serving. However he would get his tuition paid and receive the book stipend if going to school while still in.
Of course once he is out and if he chooses to go to school, then he would be authorized the housing allowance.
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Q: When you receive the Post 9/11 GI Bill housing allowance is money, is it ONLY to be used for school, or can I use it to pay bills? It’s hard to be a full-time student and pay bills. And do we need to give records of what we spent to the VA?
A: When using the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA issues three types of payments per term – one directly to your school for tuition, one each month for housing and one directly for books. The money you get for housing and books can be spent on anything you want.
The amount you get for housing depends on the zip code of your school, the number of credits you take and your Post 9/11 GI Bill tier level. The basis for the calculation is based on current BAH tables, which is based on local housing costs.
The book stipend calculates out at $41.67 per credit per term if you attend a degree-producing course or $83 per month if in a non-degree course such as a vocational school program. For some terms it will be enough to purchase all of your books. However other times, it will not be enough to cover all book costs.
To answer your second question, no the VA does not require any documentation as far as how you spent the money. It is your money to spend as you like.
Just be sure to cover your expenses first before spending the money you get from your GI Bill on other non-educated related purchases. Part of the college experience and growing up is learning how to manage finances.
Q: I am looking to transfer programs to continue my MBA with a strictly online program. Can I attend any online school or can it only be an in state of Alabama program? Thank you.
A: If you are using Alabama’s state GI Bill, then you have to stay at a school within that state. However if you are using a Federal GI Bill, such as the Montgomery GI Bill or Post 9/11 GI Bill, then you can attend any school you want as long as it is VA-approved.
To find out if the school you are looking at is approved or not, go to the Weam’s School Search website. If you know which school you would like to attend, just enter in the name of your school and click on the Submit button.
Also know that the pay structure of the Post 9/11 GI Bill is different if you attend an online-only program verses one at a brick and mortar school. Online only students get a maximum housing allowance of $715.40 per month whereas brick and mortar students get approximately twice that amount, so that might be a consideration as to whether you want to finish your MBA all online or not. Even just one class on campus would bring you the full housing allowance.
The other consideration with your MBA program is that the VA only pays up to the resident amount at a public school or up to $20,235.02 per year to attend a private school, so you would most likely have some out-of-pocket costs. It could be worthwhile to see if your school has a Yellow Ribbon agreement with the VA. That program could help pay the difference.
You would however get the book stipend of $41.67 per credit per semester (with a $1,000 per year limit).
Q: Good afternoon, my name is Erik, and I currently am approaching 9 years active service (Active duty start date 6/6/05). I am interested in transferring my Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits to my wife, however, I have a few questions. First, I am an ROTC graduate, as well as a Health Professions Scholarship Program (HPSP) graduate, and as such, I have 5 years remaining on my service obligation. With that in mind, am I still able to transfer my benefits to my spouse, and if so, at what percentage? Second, if I do transfer the benefits, will the added 4-year service obligation run concurrent with my remaining ROTC/HPSP obligation, or will I incur additional obligation? Thank you for your time and assistance.
A: Right now you can’t transfer Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits to your wife because you do not have any eligibility to transfer. The way the program works is if you are under an obligation (and you are under two) you do not gain Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility while under those obligations. So in your case, because you have 5 years of obligation left, you wouldn’t start gaining GI Bill eligibility until around 2019.
And then you would have to serve an additional 3 years at that point because as an active duty member, you can’t transfer benefits with less than 100% eligibility and that takes three years to get.
Then at that point you could make a transfer of benefits, but keep in mind, you’ll incur another obligation – this time for four years. The bad thing about obligations is they do not run concurrently but consecutively so you have to finish one before another one starts.
Q: I have just transferred my GI Bill to my spouse. What do I do now? She is to start this fall and there is no direction as to what to do next after the transfer is completed. Please assist!
A: Transferring Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits is actually a two-step process. You have already taken the first step in that you initiated the TEB transfer. At the end of that process, the Status Block should have read “Transfer Pending”. Now the next thing for you to do is to keep going back to the TEB website and watch for the status to change to “Transfer Approved”. Once that happens, your wife has to go to the eBenefits website and submit VA Form 22-1990e.
In return, she’ll get her Certificate of Eligibility. It’ll show the GI Bill she has (Post 9/11 GI Bill), the number of months remaining that she has left to use (the number of months you transferred to her) and the date she has to use up her entitlement (that may be blank as you have not gotten out of the military yet. It will be 15 years from the date of your discharge).
Once she has her certificate, she will need to hand in a copy to the Registrar at her school. Her school will then send in a Certificate of Enrollment to the VA which when matched up with her certificate starts the payment process to both the school and her. The VA will pay her tuition directly to her school. The VA pays up to the resident tuition at a public school or up to $20,235.02 per year at a private school.
She will get (once you are no longer serving) the Post 9/11 GI Bill housing allowance. It is based on the zip code of her school and the number of credits she takes. Regardless if you are still serving or not, she will get the book stipend. In a degree-program, it is $41.67 per credit per semester. If she is in a non-degree program, then it is $83 per month. With either type, there is a $1,000 per academic year limit.
Q: I paid in the standard $100 per month my first year on active duty, was released from active duty September 24, 2001, and served in the National Guard (only drills and 5 weeks ADT) until March 24, 2005. I am currently enrolled in one 3-credit course for a 6-week summer semester. I am having trouble figuring out how much reimbursement I am eligible for.
A: Let’s start out by discussing what GI Bills you have to work with. First, you were not in the National Guard long enough to get the Montgomery GI Bill – Selected Reserve (MNIG-SR) – also known as the Reserve GI Bill. You would have had to enlist for at least 6 years to get it.
And you don’t have enough time on active duty after September 10, 2001 to qualify for the Post 9/11 GI Bill; it requires serving for at least 90 days after that September date. Nor does it sound like you had any New GI Bill qualifying time while serving in the National Guard. You needed some mobilization time on a Title 10 order in support of a contingency operation which is sounds like you did not have.
So the Montgomery GI Bill – Active Duty that you signed up for and paid in your $1,200 is probably the only GI Bill you have. If you served at least three years on active duty, then you should get $1,648 per month to go to school full-time for up to 36 months. If you did not serve for at least three years, then the most you could get would $1,395 per month.
If you choose to go to school less than full-time, then you monthly amount would be prorated accordingly. In other words, if your school used 12 credits as their full-time mark and you were taking 9 credits, then you would get 9/12ths or 3/4th of the total authorized amount.
Because you are in a summer session, the number of classes required for full-time status is usually cut in half. So if your school uses 6 credits as their summer session full-time status and you are taking one 3-credit class, then you would get half of the monthly amount or about $824 per month. Out of that amount, you would have to pay tuition and buy books.
Q: I have 2 months and 4 days left of my Chapter 30 GI Bill, so that means that it will end in the middle of the fall semester. Will I continue to get the Chapter 30 benefits until the end of the semester or middle of the semester? If it doesn’t continue until the end of the semester, can I just switch over right away to the Post 9/11 GI Bill? Because I know I would get 12 additional months of Post 9/11 benefits once I exhaust my Chapter 30. Oh and my delimiting date is up in 2017, so I have plenty of time for that.
A: If that was the only GI Bill you had, yes your Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) benefit would continue to the end of the semester. The VA would not leave you hanging with no benefits mid-semester, unless you reached your delimitation date mid-term. Then it has no other option but to cut benefits the day after they run out. That is mandated by law. But if you still have time left on your MGIB, but run out of entitlement, then they will continue paying you to the end of that semester.
Because you also have the Post 9/11 GI Bill, your situation would be handled a little differently. Once you run out of MGIB benefits, the VA will start drawing off of your Post 9/11 GI Bill.
If you want to continue using your GI Bill benefits, then you’ll want to switch over to the Post 9/11 GI Bill by submitting VA Form 22-1990 from the eBenefits website. In Part II block 9f mark the Chapter 33 block and put in an effective date after you are sure you will be out of MGIB benefits. Also mark the Chapter 30 block as the GI Bill you are giving up even though it has no education benefits left to use.
When you get your new Certificate of Eligibility, it will show you have less than 12 months left to use because the VA deducted the time from when you ran out of MGIB until the end of the semester.
And don’t try to game the system by waiting until the end of the semester to switch over to the New GI Bill thinking you’ll get those last two months free – you won’t, they will still be deducted from your Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits.
Q: I was wondering what the minimum credit hours that are needed to get the GI Bill. Also, is it possible to start using your GI Bill while still AD. I am wondering because I am about to get out at the end of the year and am trying to plan ahead. I know I can use TA while I’m still in but I just wanted to know if it’s possible to start using my GI Bill and how I go about starting that paper work. Thank you for your time.
A: If you are talking about the Post 9/11 GI Bill housing allowance, you have to take at least 51% of the number of credits your school considers full-time. So if that full-time number is 12, then you would have to take at least 7 credits to qualify for the Monthly Housing Allowance (MHA).
However, while you are on active duty, you not get the MHA anyway until after you get out.
As far as using your GI Bill, there really isn’t a minimum number of credits you have to take; you can take one 3-credit class per semester if you want. But the VA does have the requirement that you must matriculate (choose a field of study) by the end of the second semester.
Also remember that the amount you get paid is directly related to your rate of pursuit. It stands to reason the VA isn’t going to pay you the same for taking 3 credits as they would if you take 12.
To start using your Post 9/11 GI Bill, just go to the eBenefits website and fill out VA Form 22-1990. In return, you’ll get your Certificate of Eligibility that you’ll need when registering for school.
Be sure to send in a copy of your final DD 214 once you get out so you’ll start receiving your MHA.